Dating RS Framed Velocettes
Often I receive e mails on how to date
Velos. The only positive way you can do this is by reference to the original
factory records, which are not in the public domain. Based on an extract
of the factory records compiled by Ivan Rhodes, you can obtain an estimate
of the date of your Velo by completing the fields below. However there are a few
things you need to be aware of;
- Velocette built engines and frames separately,
kept them in the stores and eventually built them into a machine. Therefore there is no direct or logical relationship between engine and frame numbers.
It is not unusual for an engine to have a much later frame than the
next engine in the numeric sequence or vice versa. This causes problems
particularly towards the end of the year where the last frame number I can
find does not necessarily belonging to the last engine number of that year.
- MAC, MSS, Vipers, Venoms and Thruxtons all
shared the RS frame. In compiling this information I took the latest frame
number I could find for the year concerned.
- There are two dates in the records, the
invoice date that approximates to when the bike left the factory and the guarantee
date that approximates to when the bike was sold and registered. My Venom
left the factory in September 1960 but remained unsold till September 1961.
The information provided is based on invoice date.
- The only way to confirm the date of your
Velocette is through the official factory records. The information from
which this program calculates the date of your Velocette was based on an
extract from the factory records created by Ivan Rhodes. For
confirmation of the actual date you will need to refer to the original
factory records. Validation can be obtained for a fee from Grove Classic
Motorcycles on +44 (0) 1582 873066, e mail firstname.lastname@example.org
Finally you will not be able to use this information
as positive proof of the exact age of your Velocette for the reasons outlined
above. To proceed click